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Well, GWT doesn't solve the question of human consciousness, so no, it doesn't solve the problem of AI consciousness. --- Why accept my premise? Short answer: GWT deals in *information*, which we think we understand, because we can express information in our language. But brains have to *produce* language. Explaining how they can do that by, in effect, presupposing language, is the beginning of a vicious regress. (It's a version of the homuncular fallacy.) We can accept the 'evidence' that consciousness requires more brain activity than just what goes on in dedicated sensory areas, but satisfying that requirement does not imply anything like 'broadcasting'. (NB: That metaphor compares brain activity to dissemination in a language that is understood by all recipients. But the effects of a set of neural activations will be different in different areas to which they project.)

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good stuff, Eric! and I’m excited about the whole book. Huzzah. Here’s a concern i have though, even though I risk being far too broad and meta to be helpful: what kind of track record does your method here have with respect to assessing other scientific theories? Imagine we generalized your method and codified it into language comprehensible in days of yore and then transmitted it back in time. Would Leibniz, Newton, and their contemporaries be able to use it to adjudicate any of their controversies about the correct account of space and motion? Would contemporaries of Watson and Crick fruitfully use it to pin down the mechanism of inheritance? How about members of the International Astronomical Union who cast votes in 2006 about Pluto’s classification as a planet—if they had your method in 2005, might things have gone differently? Perhaps your view about your own method is that no time travel is needed to answer my questions, on the grounds that your method is basically the same as the one deployed by all the winners of past debates that preceded some theoretical change. Or perhaps you think my sorts of questions here, when applied to the specific case of conscious, are missing the point, because what’s going on with consciousness is more philosophical and less scientific than the ones I connected above to Newton, Crick, and the IAU. Anyway, I appreciate that I’m not being super clear here, and apologize in advance if I’m not making any sense at all. But I do have a sort of murky hunch that you and I might disagree about how science works in general. I tend to see the Pluto vote as far more representative of business as usual than I think is generally appreciated. I won’t be too surprised, then, if the question of AI consciousness gets resolved via heavy doses of fiat, and we can’t know advance, or perhaps ever, whether that’s the wrong way to do it. I bet you wouldn’t agree with that. But I nonetheless wonder what meta-defense you might have for your sort of approach to evaluating, e.g. GLobal Neuronal Workspace Theory.

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