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Otto the Renunciant's avatar

I enjoyed this. A couple thoughts:

A point that I'd be interested in clarification of or expansion on is your view that harmonizing with the Dao involves participating in, enriching, and enabling others to participate in patterns and processes that lead to the flourishing of the world, while also seeming to state that the Dao isn't inherently tied to one value. In other words, I take it that your view is that harmonizing is a useful conceptual framework that can be applied to various values, and this approach, regardless of its specific value application, is useful. That I agree with. However, I think your definition of harmonizing with the Dao as harmonizing with the processes of the world already implies a specific value that the Dao necessarily moves towards and somewhat constrains its potential application as a broader evaluative framework.

I say this because the idea of harmony is somewhat implicit in Buddhist ethics, but the harmony it aims at is precisely the dismantling and refraining from engaging, participating in, or enabling other to participate in the patterns that lead to the flourishing of the world. This is still, however, a type of harmony, just with a very different music. Canonically, the goal of Buddhist practice (at least as presented by the Early Buddhist texts) is to go against the grain of the world, which could potentially be considered to be the Dao, and to enter the stream of Dhamma. That entering of the stream is something that can be "harmonized" with, in a sense, but the way you've presented the Dao as specifically in line with the world or nature seems to make it incompatible with Buddhist thought, but with a slightly different formulation, it could be a useful way of evaluating actions in even a Buddhist context, giving it wider application. Granted, maybe you specifically wanted to exclude Buddhist, Gnostic, etc. thought. But this was just my reaction upon reading.

One other quick thought: I think that the divide between melody and harmony is somewhat artificial. The melody instrument is an active and necessary participant in the creation of that harmony, even if they are playing to an accompaniment. For example, in the key of C major, if a pianist simultaneously plays C, E, and G, the harmony would be a C major chord, which is the root chord, the most stable of all possible chords in the key. But if the violinist plays a Bb over that, the harmony is now C7, which has a completely different harmonic function, introducing tension that sets us up for a modulation, changing the whole frame of reference. The structure of harmony is interdependent, and I feel like an approach to ethical harmony that takes that interdependence into account would be useful. That can be mixed with improvisation too, as one of the key things that jazz improvisers aim for is finding the right melody notes that will shift or expand upon the harmonic basis that the rest of the band is providing.

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Jamie Woodhouse's avatar

Thanks Eric. How should this approach lead us to think about: 1) very "natural" but likely catastrophically bad wild animal suffering and 2) the very "unnatural" exploitation, farming and slaughter of non-human sentient beings by human sentient beings?

(For me, the perspectives and interests of individual sentient beings are the foundation of ethics - not so much human aesthetic preferences for natural patterns we happen to like. Although those aesthetic preferences still matter too - as we're sentient beings!)

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