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Mephistophilis's avatar

I'm a bit confused because I'm not really sure what consciousness science is the science of. You seem to have constructed a future entity with a reasonably convincing set of functional properties that correlate with the sorts of things we call consciousness. This seems like the domain of consciousness science - in theory - although I'm less sure it is the actual practice.

But then you've concluded there is a hard problem about whether it does or doesn't have consciousness. Which is essentially an argument there is or may be some extra thing that is beyond function. Which is pretty much where we started in this debate. But it doesn't seem like question consciousness science is going to answer because it isn't a scientific question.

My intuition is it isn't a meaningful question at all but then we're back to intuitions, not science. I think consciousness science is allowed to slip back and forth between the functional and the...phenomenal which is misleading. I'm unconvinced they've even truly defined their object of study even within the functional tradition (since I don't think consciousness is a natural kind rather than a family resemblance) but it certainly doesn't seem like it is going to answer the philosophical question of whether there is something over and above the functional to be explained. I don't think there is but science isn't going to settle that. More likely, as the world changes, and we get used to Herbies, our priors change and the meaning and usage of our words stretches to encompass that.

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We need to pull apart consciousness and sentience, or at least emphasize the latter. Consciousness is too broad and conflated with self-awareness. Sentience is the more important thing. It's true valenced experience, and its rooted in survival imperatives stretching back billions of years and down to at least the cellular level. It's the real litmus test of ethical responsibility, and the best analogue to the soul. Personally, I'm sure it can and will be found, in some type and degree, in AI systems eventually, but it's the quality least collinear with intelligence, and will likely require specific efforts and capabilities to instill.

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